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Post by zukofirebender on Nov 14, 2007 22:02:21 GMT 1
just cuz the earth kindom is more covered with small villages easy to concure
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Post by caitymae1992 on Nov 16, 2007 3:27:23 GMT 1
i think it's cuz the fire nation is always manipulating others to do things for them. you see how azula manipulated that guy who was the head of the dei li they can manipulate the stuff out of people. IT'S AMAZING!! lol sorry for my no knoledge of the dei li guy's name and if i spelt dei li wrong. lol
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metaknightfan
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Post by metaknightfan on Nov 16, 2007 4:20:25 GMT 1
they were token by suprise and the air nomads were already defeated with the comet, and fire has suprior technology, and the earth kingdom fell because they were traited by the day li or however you spell it... i hope u mean betrayed. but ba sing se wasnt the only big earth city. there was omashu and a couple others i believe. omashu fell due to king bumi's surrender
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rivowaylord
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Post by rivowaylord on Nov 16, 2007 16:47:39 GMT 1
i ment betrayed, just couldn't remember the word (im dutch) i think it was luck for the fire nation, ba sing se with earthbenders, omashu just gave up, and the rest were just small village's
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Zfirebendz
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Post by Zfirebendz on Nov 17, 2007 2:13:23 GMT 1
u no how the water tribes r pretty small villages and the earth kingdom...well...that was shown...and the air temples were invaded a LONG time ago so i guess it makes since but idk y nobody even seemed to stand a chance against them
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Post by bloodbender on Nov 17, 2007 4:07:26 GMT 1
simple, it doesent show that theyve taken over the land because the land belongs to the element. not the military
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Post by kudugu on Nov 17, 2007 15:53:05 GMT 1
I think it is similar to the japanese invasion of china. all though china is much larger it still fell because of inferior technology, and a lack of unity. Keep in mind that the earth kingsom had two kings one in Omashu, and on in Ba Singse. Also the king in Ba Singse didn't even know that there was a war. All his army did was defend the walls to keep the fire nation from getting in. the only help they gave to the outside was housing refugees. Very good comment, and those two mentioned Kings were probably not the only ones, just remember the one avatar Kioshi killed accidentally. He neither ruled BaSingSe nor Omashu, so ... I think that this similarity (firenation-Japan, earthkingdom-China) is more than coincidental, since their respective cultures and clothing are pretty much like traditional japanese (firnation) and chinese (earthkingdom) culture and clothing.
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sloth
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Post by sloth on Nov 17, 2007 16:01:38 GMT 1
Guys, show's not about temperature of flame or density of soil or viscosity of water It's about different nations, different mindsets, differnet attitudes People of Fire have strong national idea that keeps them as solid united force, and strongest willpower I doubt Fire Nation had all brilliant scientists and inventors - just look at the Machanist of the Earth Kingdom. But it's only Fire Nation that made it to the bigger scale industry.
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sloth
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Post by sloth on Nov 17, 2007 16:03:06 GMT 1
Also, allusion to Japan-China is really pretty obvious)
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rivowaylord
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Post by rivowaylord on Nov 17, 2007 16:09:58 GMT 1
earth kingdom is way to large to protect everywhere and Ba Sing Se felt because of the Dai li
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sloth
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Post by sloth on Nov 17, 2007 16:17:17 GMT 1
By the way,all that Dai Li thing is exaggeration They had no reason to sudddenly fall under Azula's influence Just innate aristocracy alone can't do thigs like that
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Post by kudugu on Nov 17, 2007 17:42:12 GMT 1
I too found the extremely sudden betrayal of the Dai Li rather far-fetched
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rivowaylord
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Post by rivowaylord on Nov 17, 2007 17:50:57 GMT 1
well, they just followed their leader at first but then they became impressed by Azula..
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Post by Princess Azula on Nov 18, 2007 4:27:43 GMT 1
your right it doesn't make sense except for the fire lord might not want what he conqered on the map!!!
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Post by chenny257 on Nov 19, 2007 14:56:36 GMT 1
yeah... the dai li are supposed to protect the cultural heritage of ba sing se.. but remember, long feng was originally going to double cross azula so he could rule ba sing se, but azula outsmarted him. so i don't the the dai li betrayed them, i just think it was a bad mistake.
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