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Post by veg1990 on Dec 11, 2007 4:09:23 GMT 1
its interesting that she would see all that stuff about kataras future, but not aang its just interesting
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Post by zuko2105 on Dec 11, 2007 4:12:38 GMT 1
i think its because most boys dont care about love at 12, so she wasent looking for any thing love related when she read anngs fortune
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Post by veg1990 on Dec 11, 2007 4:18:20 GMT 1
besides that katara and zuko characters have weird things in common 1. both impersonated spirits (blue spirit and painted lady) 2. both lost their mothers
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Post by vabrieman on Dec 11, 2007 5:38:50 GMT 1
your point please
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Post by kataangaxk on Dec 12, 2007 2:38:47 GMT 1
First of all, the blue spirit wasnt actually a "spirit". It was just his nickname. Second of all, Katara didnt purposely inpersonate the painted lady.
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Post by sakuraangelina on Dec 12, 2007 6:30:00 GMT 1
not because he is going to join the group it means they have to be together zuko won,t let his feelings for mai go that fast and evin if he does for katara and zuko to be together, katara has to forgive him first for what he did in cod(he and azula almost killed aang) than learn to trust him and then whip up some romance now, i don,t see that happening anytime soon and i also do not think aang wil give up withuot a fight, he won,t let zuko just step in and take over his terretory lol. I agree with the last part about Aang not giving up without a fight. But he would be fighting a losing battle if Katara's feelings did not belong to him....... Katara was angry with Jet for his betrayal, but she forgave him when she found out he had changed (well...she was slowly changing her opinion of him, it wasn't just a one shot deal, but you could see that with time they could have been friends...but of course he had to go die so there goes that story). It will take time, but Katara will learn to forgive Zuko. And you could absolutely abhor a person and still think them attractive . IF anybody says something about Zuko's scar I'm not going to be happy . Poor guy, shot down as a possible candidate because he suffered child abuse. What Ozai did was similar to a father who told his child not to eat the cookies but his child disobeys, so he takes a hot poker from the fireplace and presses it to his son's face and watches as the child screams in agony. Then has the audacity to say that said son deserves the "punishment". And, as if the emotional trauma is not enough, for this very reason, this child will be called ugly for the rest of his life and undeserving of a sweet girl's love. That's just cold, people. No wonder Zuko made bad choices. He's had to live with this experience for a while. Such things can be rather...traumatizingly unforgettable. Believe me, I know. So once Katara forgives (which she most certainly will, even if it takes her a while out of pride to do so) there's a possibility that she will see the good in Zuko, his tortured soul, and want to heal him...and maybe then feelings can develop. Anyway, Zuko and Mai? Somehow I think Zuko liked the idea of being with Mai more than actually being with her. She did not turn him down for the ugly scar on his face, but accepted him unconditionally. If he had stayed in the fire nation to the point of succession of the throne, she would be his best candidate as a wife because he knew that her love was not just a way to political privilege but genuine. So, being intelligent, he went along with it, probably feeling no one else would be interested. That's how I view the pairing. I absolutely loathe them being together. Someone convince me how them together is a good thing (beside giving Kataang free reign...that doesn't count as a reason ). So yeah...I now totally support a AangxKataraxZuko theme in AtLA. But I would like the results to be Zutara. Zuko has had trauma that I believe needs Katara's healing power more than Aang does (he shouldn't get Katara just because he's the Avatar) chek avatarspirit zuko and mai are gonna have a child aang and katara are gonna be together and so are sokka and toph And those pictures were from a spoof by the creators ^^ First of all, the blue spirit wasnt actually a "spirit". It was just his nickname. Second of all, Katara didnt purposely inpersonate the painted lady. Yes, but Zuko has proven to want to help the unfortunate just a much as Katara has. Remember Lee and his family in "Zuko Alone". Zuko has a good heart, it just needs healing.
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Post by gion on Dec 13, 2007 16:25:16 GMT 1
i don,t think zuko needs katara,s heeling more than aang you see zuko los,t his trone, his pride and his mom that is a big los but it is nothing compared to aang see he lost al of his people and at the invasion it looks like he also lost most of his pride. i am no katanger nor zutarian and i am not blowing of zutara but katara has proven to be the only person to keep aang going and that is why i think that aang needs katara more than zuko
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Post by DarkArchAngel on Dec 13, 2007 16:36:05 GMT 1
'' She doesn't mean Zuko's heart needs Katara's healing does she? Lolz
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Post by sakuraangelina on Dec 13, 2007 16:42:35 GMT 1
i don,t think zuko needs katara,s heeling more than aang you see zuko los,t his trone, his pride and his mom that is a big los but it is nothing compared to aang see he lost al of his people and at the invasion it looks like he also lost most of his pride. i am no katanger nor zutarian and i am not blowing of zutara but katara has proven to be the only person to keep aang going and that is why i think that aang needs katara more than zuko True. I have seen signs of that, especially when Azula zapped him with lightening and closed off his path to the Avatar state. Katara saved his life, and she was also the one who encouraged him to sleep in the "Nightmares and Dreams" episode. But I believe Aang has a lot more time to find his true love. He's only 12, and it really doesn't have to be Katara who loves him unconditionally. Zuko is older and more at the stage where finding love is kinda crucial to help him move on from the abuse. Aang may have lost a lot of people, but Zuko was abused. A friend of mind told me that a person who is abused needs a lot more attention and assurances of love than people who have not experienced such trauma because of the emotional problems that develops as a result. This is also why I think Mai is really bad for our dear princey. She will not supply him enough emotional support. Katara is the only one in the series that could compliment Zuko sucessfully...this is true for Aang too, but like I said, he has PLENTY of time to learn what true love is. And Katara would still take care of her Aangy, even if she was with Zuko.^^ So he would not truly lose her.
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Post by DarkArchAngel on Dec 13, 2007 16:47:11 GMT 1
You're a Zutarian, aren't you?
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Post by sakuraangelina on Dec 13, 2007 16:50:43 GMT 1
You're a Zutarian, aren't you? lol ;D Really, how could you tell? ;)Are you Kataanger, Zutarian or neither? Actually I wouldn't mind a love triangle on the show.
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Post by chenny257 on Dec 13, 2007 16:58:50 GMT 1
Yeah, it would make the show more dramatic, but then again, its not really a drama show. I don't mean to insult u guys or anything, but I never understood why people would want zutara...what is the reason? It sounds stupid, but me being a kataanger, i don't know much about zutara, because i never bothered to check it out.
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Post by sakuraangelina on Dec 13, 2007 17:15:14 GMT 1
Yeah, it would make the show more dramatic, but then again, its not really a drama show. I don't mean to insult u guys or anything, but I never understood why people would want zutara...what is the reason? It sounds stupid, but me being a kataanger, i don't know much about zutara, because i never bothered to check it out. NOT A DRAMATIC SHOW??? Where have you been for the last two seasons? Fathers banishing kids and burning scars into their faces, underground organizations conspiring against kings, weapons designed to plow down the walls of a nation, brain washing, seiges (some sucessful, some not), sea monsters popping up at the right moments, nightmares that might be prophetic, angry spirits attacking villages, princesses ambushing kyoshi warriors so they can infiltrate an impenetrable cities, secret disguises to hide true identities or suffer death...ah yeah, that counts as dramatic in my book. Actually, I never even thought of Zutara until I saw someone else make the connection, and then I became a supporter...because it made sense, especially when all of a sudden Katara discovered she could heal with her water bending powers. Katara=healer Zuko=broken spirit which factors into "heal the broken spirit" I can't speak for all Zutarians, but that's my take on it.
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Post by gion on Dec 13, 2007 18:01:03 GMT 1
wait a minute zuko had to let his feelings of shame and humilation go to seperate the energy of lightning and he did. he finaly convinced himself that what the fire nation is doing is wrong and that the avatar is not his enemy. he also finaly faced his dad for what he did to him. so tecnicly he is already healed and that al thanks to iroh. so he doesn,t need katara,s help. zutara can still happen and so can kataang. ;Di am still no shipper ;D
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Post by sakuraangelina on Dec 13, 2007 18:14:30 GMT 1
You may be right, but Iroh's fatherly love can never have the healing power of true love. If you've ever talked to couples who have been together for 25 years or more and still act like newly weds^^...they all tell you that they don't know how they lived without that kind of love before. It heals you on a whole new level. It's still necessary. I believe no one has truly lived until they have found true love (and I include myself in that equation...where IS that guy? ?? lol.)
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