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Post by simplegrl007 on Nov 22, 2007 1:43:47 GMT 1
That really explains why Katara was so distracted that Sokka brought her back down to earth by just speaking. Katara also seemed to linger in the same expression of kissing even though Aang pulled his lips back, which signifies she enjoyed it. Before even starting the conversation They both were looking down and away from eachother which is a sign of shyness which both characters (Katara in particular) are not known for but this is a common syndrome of love. She lingered because of the "What in the world just happened?!?!" She was in shock. Before the conversation, both had realized that this may be the last time they would ever see each other. Aang: "What if I don't come back?" It was possible that either one could have died in the invasion battle. You usually don't want someone's last memories of you to be bad or of you pushing them away after a kiss you didn't like/want. Besides, Katara was well aware that she could have upset Aang's concentration and made him do something stupid and it would be her fault if he didn't come back alive. IF she did like it, it could easily be attributed to the rush and buzz of her first kiss. That's how I was the first time I realized a guy liked me. I was shy and giggly and totally obsessed, very unlike myself, until I realized that he was a jerk. (No, not saying that Aang's a jerk.) Most girls get like that for their first kiss or date or boyfriend. Katara's no exception. And the season isn't over yet. Anything could happen, especially since Zuko and Katara will probably have their first meeting when they're on friendly terms. True, Katara will be angry after CoD, but she'll have to live with Zuko so he can train Aang in firebending. Think of it this way, the first time they met, within X number of minutes arguing, Katara was offering to use her very special spirit oasis water to heal his scar. They barely knew each other. They were still, technically, on different sides of the war. Imagine what could happen when they meet and they're on the same side of the war. When they will be living within the same area for who knows how long. Also, for those who wonder what might happen to Aang if Zutara happens, there's (1) Toph, that's a semi-popular pairing, (2) Meng, from the Fortuneteller. If you remember, she was destined to marry someone with big ears or something to that effect, like Aang. Just because Aang was the first powerful bender Katara saw after the fortune doesn't mean that he's the one she's going to marry or that he's the only powerful bender. (3) I just discovered this summary of Western Air Temple: The West Air Temple is situated nearest to Fire Nation territory. It exclusively housed female Airbenders, and is the only temple not yet seen in the series. It is mentioned at the end of The Day of Black Sun, after the invasion failed, that they would go there for safety.It's possible that someone-an airbender or more than one, and their descendents-survived. Aang would probably connect quite easily with with the airbenders or their descendents and become infatuated with a female. Similar to how he became infatuated with Katara because she was the first girl he saw after coming out of the iceberg. First air nomad he sees in so long when he thought they were all gone. One could also argue that Aang can't find someone to love because he needs to keep his chakras open and he can't be too attached.
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Post by outlawking on Nov 22, 2007 9:47:20 GMT 1
That was alot of typing.
For all the Kataangs out there: SHUT UP! You went for an obvious paring. There was a 70% chance that might happen and you didn't want to go wit another paring that might happen ecause you were scared it wouldn't. Keep in mind not all the obvious parings work out the way you think. Dragon Ball, Naruto, Harry Potter, ect.
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Nov 22, 2007 19:34:53 GMT 1
Post by masterbender517 on Nov 22, 2007 19:34:53 GMT 1
Kataang is the bomb, i was shocked to see that in epi. 9 they kissed but it was fake so i was even more impressed that he kissed her in epi. 10 i knew it was goin to happen before the war and when he said, "Everything is going to be different now isn't it," i knew the kiss was comin.
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Nov 22, 2007 20:12:25 GMT 1
Post by firebender524 on Nov 22, 2007 20:12:25 GMT 1
I thought I was going to have a heart attack when they kissed in episode 10
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Nov 22, 2007 20:20:46 GMT 1
Post by outlawking on Nov 22, 2007 20:20:46 GMT 1
*thumps both of your foreheads* You went with he easy choice.
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Nov 22, 2007 22:32:12 GMT 1
Post by kudugu on Nov 22, 2007 22:32:12 GMT 1
That was alot of typing. For all the Kataangs out there: SHUT UP! You went for an obvious paring. There was a 70% chance that might happen and you didn't want to go wit another paring that might happen ecause you were scared it wouldn't. Keep in mind not all the obvious parings work out the way you think. Dragon Ball, Naruto, Harry Potter, ect. Just because the choice of heart equals the the choice that seems most obvious, doesn't mean it was the fear to loose and not the heart that dictated the choice.
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Nov 22, 2007 22:51:56 GMT 1
Post by kataangaxk on Nov 22, 2007 22:51:56 GMT 1
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that Katara wanting to heal Zuko really doesnt mean anything. Katara is just a kind person. She risked her life to save Haru, that doesnt mean she loves him. If it did mean anything then think of all the times Katara has healed Aang or risked her life to save his. She just offered to help Zuko. That doesnt mean she is in love withhim or will ever be in love with him.
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Post by cookie on Nov 23, 2007 1:23:22 GMT 1
Why don't you look at her expression at the end of "The Black Sun", it didn't look like a feeling of rejection or of the sort. It's pretty obvious that Meng won't appear after around 36 episodes and "The Fortuneteller" episode wasn't made because they felt like it, like everything else in the avatar world normally has, it is of significance that has remained that I can note of at this time is the fortune teller telling katara that she would marry a powerful bender.
The kiss was obviously not the first syndrome or sign of it. They have both shown affection for each other though Katara is more discreet and it might not be the buzz of a first kiss.
They weren't really on opposite sides of the war as they were both trying to make amends, Katara's way was offering water from the spirit Oasis which I might add, can be easily found at the North pole.
Katara isn't really trusting to people who've lied or Betrayed her trust as a prime example is with Jet, whom she fell in love with , something we haven't seen from Zuko and Katara, and when he betrayed her, she didn't treat him nicely at all along with being neutral to help them find Appa. Zuko 's case was much more serious. So I don't really need imagination to figure it out.
I haven't seen Katara lie without some obvious signs and the Eslipse, none of them were present. I don't think that Katara would lie to someone and they would never find out the truth in the end, which would be indeed sad. Also, Katara never looked away after the kiss so that point in invalid.
Also in the Western Air Temple, since every other Air temple was completely abandoned, it is likely that it will be no exception, especially considering such close location with the fire nation which has reign over most of the world along with showing the most brutality. They also found out about the Mechanist whom went to the Air temple years after the war began as we can see due to the Mechanist stating that Teo wasn't old enough to even remember when the Fire Nation came with threats so we can estimate that Teo couldn't be older then 25, so they have to have been at most 25 years on the temple from there.
One could argue that opening all the chakras isn't the only way as shown with Roku in Avatar: Escape from the Spirit World.
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Post by outlawking on Nov 23, 2007 2:00:56 GMT 1
You mind shortining that? Short attertion span.
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Nov 23, 2007 11:34:24 GMT 1
Post by kataangaxk on Nov 23, 2007 11:34:24 GMT 1
This is completely my opinion. I believe that that kiss aang and katara had was coming. Aang and Katara are really close and they act boyfriend girlfriendish already. If I got a dollar for every time they hugged I would be a millionaire. As you can see from this picture, they hold on to each other when combustion man attacks. I mean why each other, sokka's there, Toph's there. This shows theirs a little affection between them. Also, why in god's name would Katara love someone that tried to kill her on multiple occasions. Zutara just doesnt make sense to me.
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Post by simplegrl007 on Nov 24, 2007 5:43:14 GMT 1
Yeah, that was a ton of typing for me, especially because I tend to be a perfectionist with my wording and arguments and all that.
Katara herself said that the spirit oasis water was very special, had special properties, and she was saving it for something important. She wouldn't use it up on just anything. And she did have a thing for Haru, at least at first. And Zuko's scar wasn't a life and death thing, most other times when she saved/helped someone it was life and death. She was willing to use her water on something Zuko had lived with for years and could go on living with.
Her "discreet" ways of showing affection to Aang are things she did for almost anyone: Sokka, Haru, and lots of other people, including the whole world by helping Aang on his journeys.
It's not necessarily obvious that Meng won't come back. Haru came back when I thought he was long gone. Anything is possible.
Yes, she did look away from Aang after the kiss, I've watched it closely a number of times online. If you don't believe me, go back and check yourself.
I never said it was likely that the Western Air Temple would still be inhabited, I said it was possible. There's always the chance.
Everything you interpret as "boyfriend girlfriendish" could just as easily be interpreted as friendship and sibling love. She ran up to and hugged Haru when he arrived at the island but that doesn't mean that she'll be getting together with him because the writers said it would be either Zutara or Kataang. Hugging doesn't necessarily mean romance. Also, if you notice in the picture, Katara and Aang were closer to each other and that would be why they didn't try to protect the others too. And at this point Aang is still recovering from his back wound and as the world's last hope Katara has reason to protect him.
And Zuko never tried to kill the Gaang. He fought them, yes. Tried to capture them, yes. But there's a difference between fighting to the death and just fighting. He didn't even try to hurt them when they were paralyzed, had separated from Aang, and didn't know where Aang was so they were totally useless to him (in Bato of the Water Tribe).
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Nov 24, 2007 22:18:30 GMT 1
Post by Blaperile on Nov 24, 2007 22:18:30 GMT 1
Katara and Aang would be the perfect couple, you see that they have feelings for eachother and they already have kissed, so I think that that's the perfect couple.
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Post by cookie on Nov 25, 2007 3:24:56 GMT 1
Yeah, that was a ton of typing for me, especially because I tend to be a perfectionist with my wording and arguments and all that. Katara herself said that the spirit oasis water was very special, had special properties, and she was saving it for something important. She wouldn't use it up on just anything. And she did have a thing for Haru, at least at first. And Zuko's scar wasn't a life and death thing, most other times when she saved/helped someone it was life and death. She was willing to use her water on something Zuko had lived with for years and could go on living with. Her "discreet" ways of showing affection to Aang are things she did for almost anyone: Sokka, Haru, and lots of other people, including the whole world by helping Aang on his journeys. It's not necessarily obvious that Meng won't come back. Haru came back when I thought he was long gone. Anything is possible. Yes, she did look away from Aang after the kiss, I've watched it closely a number of times online. If you don't believe me, go back and check yourself. I never said it was likely that the Western Air Temple would still be inhabited, I said it was possible. There's always the chance. Everything you interpret as "boyfriend girlfriendish" could just as easily be interpreted as friendship and sibling love. She ran up to and hugged Haru when he arrived at the island but that doesn't mean that she'll be getting together with him because the writers said it would be either Zutara or Kataang. Hugging doesn't necessarily mean romance. Also, if you notice in the picture, Katara and Aang were closer to each other and that would be why they didn't try to protect the others too. And at this point Aang is still recovering from his back wound and as the world's last hope Katara has reason to protect him. And Zuko never tried to kill the Gaang. He fought them, yes. Tried to capture them, yes. But there's a difference between fighting to the death and just fighting. He didn't even try to hurt them when they were paralyzed, had separated from Aang, and didn't know where Aang was so they were totally useless to him (in Bato of the Water Tribe). When things are interpreted that way, Zuko being given the spirit Oasis water can be interpreted for sibling and friendship love =P The Spirit Oasis Water Before someone immediately states "The Spirit Oasis water is super valuable and that is why she gave it to him as a sign of LOVE", Consider this: The Spirit Oasis water can be easily found at the North pole, for 50 cents each (jking) However, the Northern water tribe do not have much obligations on using the spirit water if it is the only or most efficient way. It could've also been to convert Zuko from bad guy to good guy because of the kindness she showed in doing this but apparently, Zuko choses his Father over any chance of having a actual relationship between them. She shows more affection and has been seen in alone in many secnarios with Aang aswell as conversing with Aang at least 5 times more then she has been seen conversing with Zuko. Does the fact you have not said anything against my Jet Betrayal paragraph mean you do not disagree or you haven't read it? I'm not gonna let it get buried and forgotten. I think writing large amounts of points looks neat professional and ends the argument quickly because I don't believe in post count and long drawled arguments.
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Post by outlawking on Nov 25, 2007 3:35:57 GMT 1
Ok?
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Post by simplegrl007 on Nov 25, 2007 8:01:38 GMT 1
When things are interpreted that way, Zuko being given the spirit Oasis water can be interpreted for sibling and friendship love =P The Spirit Oasis Water Before someone immediately states "The Spirit Oasis water is super valuable and that is why she gave it to him as a sign of LOVE", Consider this: The Spirit Oasis water can be easily found at the North pole, for 50 cents each (jking) However, the Northern water tribe do not have much obligations on using the spirit water if it is the only or most efficient way. It could've also been to convert Zuko from bad guy to good guy because of the kindness she showed in doing this but apparently, Zuko choses his Father over any chance of having a actual relationship between them. She shows more affection and has been seen in alone in many secnarios with Aang aswell as conversing with Aang at least 5 times more then she has been seen conversing with Zuko. Does the fact you have not said anything against my Jet Betrayal paragraph mean you do not disagree or you haven't read it? I'm not gonna let it get buried and forgotten. I think writing large amounts of points looks neat professional and ends the argument quickly because I don't believe in post count and long drawled arguments. Sorry about missing the Jet thing. My internet sucks and sometimes freezes up internet pages and it did in the middle of writing that post so I had to rewrite it all and I missed some of the arguments I had had in the post before. Yes, she was hurt by Jet, he used her to destroy an entire town. Luckily Sokka had gotten the people out. But she knew that when she met back up with Jet it would be short-term, or until they found Appa with his help and they didn't expect that to take too long. So she didn't have to be friendly toward Jet because they would be splitting up again soon. And she did end up caring enough to try to save his life. She just needed time to forgive him. The fact that he was brainwashed didn't change his betrayal to her in the past.... Yes. Zuko's betrayal was deep, but she hadn't been used to destroy an entire village, and she hadn't been totally flirting with him either (at least not when compared to her actions toward Jet). I'm not sure how I would rate the betrayal when comparing to them, I'd probably have to go back and watch CoD to get a good comparison. I've been meaning to do that anyways. Yes, the Spirit Oasis thing could be taken as friendship, as could most of Katara's actions. It's quite possible that Katara is totally unsure of her feelings for most of the males in the series and hasn't picked who she likes/loves especially since the last time she showed interest in someone (Jet), he betrayed her. And yes, of course the Spirit Oasis water could easily be found at the North Pole, and it's so conveniently close. I mean, it's right around the corner from the Fire Nation. It's a wonder that Katara didn't fill an entire water pouch full of it before the invasion just for convenience in case something serious happened to Aang or anyone else. That was sarcasm in case you didn't catch that. My point is that although the water can be found quite easily at the North Pole, the North Pole is farther away than they can afford to travel. The Gaang spent the better part of season 1 flying to the North Pole. Yes, they spent some time goofing off at the beginning, and yes, that was all the way from the South Pole, but it's still farther away than they have time to go and at the moment Katara's little Spirit Oasis thingie remains empty. Yes, Zuko chose his father over the Gaang because for the first time the hope of going home was actually within his reach.And he went home. It was when he went home that he finally figured out that he's not bad, stood up to his father, and explicitly said he was going to do his destiny: to help the avatar. Yes, Katara has been talking to Aang more than Zuko, and that's why there is more evidence of Kataang than Zutara. I've said that before. Whether it was in this thread or not, I don't specifically remember. The point is that with Zuko coming to teach Aang firebending that they will have the chance to talk and everything. I probably will not be on much if at all tomorrow, as a forewarning. I have church and an essay to write that I had totally forgotten about until now. I should be back after school on Monday.
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