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Post by outlawking on Dec 2, 2007 1:10:02 GMT 1
She used it once, but I believe she should hone that ability. I also blieve she should have a few more experiences to show her skill and not cause any doubt of her 'Master staus'. Hopefully she'll get a chance to work on her healing abilities a little more as well. Then she can called a true master. And you skewed my words earlier, whether you'll admit it or not, but anyone who reads this (other than you) will see where and how; and I thought you would man up to it, but you continue to ignore that fact. If you honestly don't see how you twisted them, then please, I urge you to re-read, and carefully at that. I hate when other people try to portray me a a negative influence instead of looking at that fact that all I wanted to do was add some logic and reason. Please keep calm. He might of not ment it. |
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Post by jonathand1205 on Dec 2, 2007 1:36:35 GMT 1
okay, now, lets not attack everyone who posts on this forum |
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Post by outlawking on Dec 2, 2007 1:39:20 GMT 1
If you don;t have an anwser don't post. It's commen courtesy.
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Post by kudugu on Dec 2, 2007 2:06:06 GMT 1
She used it once, but I believe she should hone that ability. I also blieve she should have a few more experiences to show her skill and not cause any doubt of her 'Master staus'. Hopefully she'll get a chance to work on her healing abilities a little more as well. Then she can called a true master. And you skewed my words earlier, whether you'll admit it or not, but anyone who reads this (other than you) will see where and how; and I thought you would man up to it, but you continue to ignore that fact. If you honestly don't see how you twisted them, then please, I urge you to re-read, and carefully at that. I hate when other people try to portray me a a negative influence instead of looking at that fact that all I wanted to do was add some logic and reason. I never tried to portray you as a bad influence! I simply read what you wrote, interpreted that and explained my interpretation afterwards. If you feel offended by that, pity, that was honestly not my intention!!! I completely agree with you one the fact that she could surely use more practice in bloodbending ... that's true fot every beding technique and pretty much every character regardless of status, cause there's always room for improvement, even for a master. What i don't understand, the reason why i'm still discussing here, is what makes you or outlawking doubt Katara's status.  Every argument you two brought up was pretty much about some undefined quality level her abilities would have to reach first. The question is: How would you determine that exact level? How do YOU know the exact parameters for mastership in ATLA? We can only aproximate a judgement by comparing a character and his abilities with those of a known master. - We don't know how effective healing can get, because Katara herself is actually the very best healer we've seen so far. So how do you know she's not good enough to be a master yet? - We don't know how many techniques a person has to know before he can be called a master. We've only seen Katara use more techniques than all other waterbenders together. - We don't know how powerful a bender has to be before he can be called a master. We've only evidenced that Katara is obviusly one of the most powerful waterbenders there are. - We don't know how wise a person has to be before he can be called a master. We've only seen Katara express compassion, wits and and useful advise that surpasses that of most (not all) of the other bending masters we've seen in the show. -We don't know how good a fighter a person has to be before he can be called a master. We've only seen Katara being able to successfully stand up against almost every other one bender, and defeating another waterbending master. So comparison would imply Katara might have what it takes to be called a master. And even better, there are two characters in the show, who are supposed to know the exact parameters for mastership, and these two DO call her a master. So what makes you or anyone else a more reliable specialist for mastership parameters than the masters in the show itself? (No offense intended!!! Only an earnest Question!!!) |
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Post by outlawking on Dec 2, 2007 2:09:21 GMT 1
1. She never studied under Yodoga for healing. He healing is self tought.
2. He self thoght moves don't match up to All of Paku's moves. She plaied a lot of cards but they didn't match up to his Aces.
3. She is not stronger then Paku. She never beat him.
4.Who wasn't as strong as Paku.
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Post by jonathand1205 on Dec 2, 2007 2:11:31 GMT 1
She used it once, but I believe she should hone that ability. I also blieve she should have a few more experiences to show her skill and not cause any doubt of her 'Master staus'. Hopefully she'll get a chance to work on her healing abilities a little more as well. Then she can called a true master. And you skewed my words earlier, whether you'll admit it or not, but anyone who reads this (other than you) will see where and how; and I thought you would man up to it, but you continue to ignore that fact. If you honestly don't see how you twisted them, then please, I urge you to re-read, and carefully at that. I hate when other people try to portray me a a negative influence instead of looking at that fact that all I wanted to do was add some logic and reason. I never tried to portray you as a bad influence! I simply read what you wrote, interpreted that and explained my interpretation afterwards. If you feel offended by that, pity, that was honestly not my intention!!! I completely agree with you one the fact that she could surely use more practice in bloodbending ... that's true fot every beding technique and pretty much every character regardless of status, cause there's always room for improvement, even for a master. What i don't understand, the reason why i'm still discussing here, is what makes you or outlawking doubt Katara's status. Every argument you two brought up was pretty much about some undefined quality level her abilities would have to reach first. The question is: How would you determine that exact level? How do YOU know the exact parameters for mastership in ATLA? We can only aproximate a judgement by comparing a character and his abilities with those of a known master. - We don't know how effective healing can get, because Katara herself is actually the very best healer we've seen so far. So how do you know she's not good enough to be a master yet? - We don't know how many techniques a person has to know before he can be called a master. We've only seen Katara use more techniques than all other waterbenders together. - We don't know how powerful a bender has to be before he can be called a master. We've only evidenced that Katara is obviusly one of the most powerful waterbenders there are. - We don't know how wise a person has to be before he can be called a master. We've only seen Katara express compassion, wits and and useful advise that surpasses that of most (not all) of the other bending masters we've seen in the show. -We don't know how good a fighter a person has to be before he can be called a master. We've only seen Katara being able to successfully stand up against almost every other one bender, and defeating another waterbending master. So comparison would imply Katara might have what it takes to be called a master. And even better, there are two characters in the show, who are supposed to know the exact parameters for mastership, and these two DO call her a master. So what makes you or anyone else a more reliable specialist for mastership parameters than the masters in the show itself? (No offense intended!!! Only an earnest Question!!!) couldn't have put it better! |
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Post by jonathand1205 on Dec 2, 2007 2:19:54 GMT 1
here's a quote i think we all need to read...
"Oh, Katara, two MASTER waterbenders under the full moon? I dont think we should have anything to worry about."
Obviously Hamma, a master from the Southern Tribe, is referring to herself and Katara as MASTER... I REPEAT MASTER waterbenders.
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Post by outlawking on Dec 2, 2007 4:01:09 GMT 1
She was crazy. She locked tons of people up in a hole. She's not sane.
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Post by Zfirebendz on Dec 2, 2007 4:25:33 GMT 1
yeah, that is pretty crazy...
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Post by jonathand1205 on Dec 2, 2007 4:47:48 GMT 1
She was crazy. She locked tons of people up in a hole. She's not sane. not crazy enough to figure out how to bloodbend all on her own... |
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Post by tenoko on Dec 2, 2007 5:32:58 GMT 1
I completely agree with you one the fact that she could surely use more practice in bloodbending ... that's true fot every beding technique and pretty much every character regardless of status, cause there's always room for improvement, even for a master. What i don't understand, the reason why i'm still discussing here, is what makes you or outlawking doubt Katara's status. Every argument you two brought up was pretty much about some undefined quality level her abilities would have to reach first. The question is: How would you determine that exact level? How do YOU know the exact parameters for mastership in ATLA? We can only aproximate a judgement by comparing a character and his abilities with those of a known master. - We don't know how effective healing can get, because Katara herself is actually the very best healer we've seen so far. So how do you know she's not good enough to be a master yet? - We don't know how many techniques a person has to know before he can be called a master. We've only seen Katara use more techniques than all other waterbenders together. - We don't know how powerful a bender has to be before he can be called a master. We've only evidenced that Katara is obviusly one of the most powerful waterbenders there are. - We don't know how wise a person has to be before he can be called a master. We've only seen Katara express compassion, wits and and useful advise that surpasses that of most (not all) of the other bending masters we've seen in the show. -We don't know how good a fighter a person has to be before he can be called a master. We've only seen Katara being able to successfully stand up against almost every other one bender, and defeating another waterbending master. So comparison would imply Katara might have what it takes to be called a master. And even better, there are two characters in the show, who are supposed to know the exact parameters for mastership, and these two DO call her a master. So what makes you or anyone else a more reliable specialist for mastership parameters than the masters in the show itself? (No offense intended!!! Only an earnest Question!!!) None taken, but you just explained soemthing. We don't know what it takes to gain the title of 'Master', that's why I can't say Katara is one...yet. I have all the faith there is that she will be a true master. |
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Post by tenoko on Dec 2, 2007 5:41:41 GMT 1
She was crazy. She locked tons of people up in a hole. She's not sane. not crazy enough to figure out how to bloodbend all on her own... No that's true. But why is it that Hamma is now considered a Master bender herself? Because she said she was one, because she taught herself how to bloodbend? If that is what makes someone a master then I guess Pakku better learn how to bloodbend and give himself the master title. Katara will take no time at all, since she already knows how to bloodbend, now she just needs to announce that she's a "Master' bender and be done with all of her training!!! Who needs knowledge, practice, and experience when all you need to do is bloodbend then announce your mastership! We do not know what qualifies someone to be named a master of their element, so until shown that being called a master by a psycho and being told to teach someone else how to bend better are what qualifies, I'm sticking with Katara is not a master... YET |
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Post by Zfirebendz on Dec 2, 2007 6:21:12 GMT 1
She used it once, but I believe she should hone that ability. I also blieve she should have a few more experiences to show her skill and not cause any doubt of her 'Master staus'. Hopefully she'll get a chance to work on her healing abilities a little more as well. Then she can called a true master. And you skewed my words earlier, whether you'll admit it or not, but anyone who reads this (other than you) will see where and how; and I thought you would man up to it, but you continue to ignore that fact. If you honestly don't see how you twisted them, then please, I urge you to re-read, and carefully at that. I hate when other people try to portray me a a negative influence instead of looking at that fact that all I wanted to do was add some logic and reason. I never tried to portray you as a bad influence! I simply read what you wrote, interpreted that and explained my interpretation afterwards. If you feel offended by that, pity, that was honestly not my intention!!! I completely agree with you one the fact that she could surely use more practice in bloodbending ... that's true fot every beding technique and pretty much every character regardless of status, cause there's always room for improvement, even for a master. What i don't understand, the reason why i'm still discussing here, is what makes you or outlawking doubt Katara's status. Every argument you two brought up was pretty much about some undefined quality level her abilities would have to reach first. The question is: How would you determine that exact level? How do YOU know the exact parameters for mastership in ATLA? We can only aproximate a judgement by comparing a character and his abilities with those of a known master. - We don't know how effective healing can get, because Katara herself is actually the very best healer we've seen so far. So how do you know she's not good enough to be a master yet? - We don't know how many techniques a person has to know before he can be called a master. We've only seen Katara use more techniques than all other waterbenders together. - We don't know how powerful a bender has to be before he can be called a master. We've only evidenced that Katara is obviusly one of the most powerful waterbenders there are. - We don't know how wise a person has to be before he can be called a master. We've only seen Katara express compassion, wits and and useful advise that surpasses that of most (not all) of the other bending masters we've seen in the show. -We don't know how good a fighter a person has to be before he can be called a master. We've only seen Katara being able to successfully stand up against almost every other one bender, and defeating another waterbending master. So comparison would imply Katara might have what it takes to be called a master. And even better, there are two characters in the show, who are supposed to know the exact parameters for mastership, and these two DO call her a master. So what makes you or anyone else a more reliable specialist for mastership parameters than the masters in the show itself? (No offense intended!!! Only an earnest Question!!!) thats some pretty bold writen u got goiin there kudugu! i would break it up into about 30 comments |
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Post by outlawking on Dec 2, 2007 8:39:21 GMT 1
not crazy enough to figure out how to bloodbend all on her own... No that's true. But why is it that Hamma is now considered a Master bender herself? Because she said she was one, because she taught herself how to bloodbend? If that is what makes someone a master then I guess Pakku better learn how to bloodbend and give himself the master title. Katara will take no time at all, since she already knows how to bloodbend, now she just needs to announce that she's a "Master' bender and be done with all of her training!!! Who needs knowledge, practice, and experience when all you need to do is bloodbend then announce your mastership! We do not know what qualifies someone to be named a master of their element, so until shown that being called a master by a psycho and being told to teach someone else how to bend better are what qualifies, I'm sticking with Katara is not a master... YET She is a uckling. Not a duck. |
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Post by jonathand1205 on Dec 2, 2007 20:11:53 GMT 1
not crazy enough to figure out how to bloodbend all on her own... No that's true. But why is it that Hamma is now considered a Master bender herself? Because she said she was one, because she taught herself how to bloodbend? If that is what makes someone a master then I guess Pakku better learn how to bloodbend and give himself the master title. Katara will take no time at all, since she already knows how to bloodbend, now she just needs to announce that she's a "Master' bender and be done with all of her training!!! Who needs knowledge, practice, and experience when all you need to do is bloodbend then announce your mastership! We do not know what qualifies someone to be named a master of their element, so until shown that being called a master by a psycho and being told to teach someone else how to bend better are what qualifies, I'm sticking with Katara is not a master... YET well, apparently, bloodbending, is the most powerfull waterbending skill. (this isn't according to Hamma, its said all over the internet) so i suppose when you successfully exert the power of bloodbending you would be a master. which Katara and Hamma have done. Maybe Pakku knows too, but i doubt it, since he's never mentioned being imprisoned. I dont think any waterbender would figure out that you can bloodbend unless they're in a desperate situation. Unless, of course, you're a slice of cheese short of a cheeseburger |
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